I know plenty of individual men who give care to other men.

But systemically, men are often not encouraged to do so. Ask if you want my references on that.

You’re most welcome to join this convo. Obvs we can’t have it comprehensively without male input. I think most guys just don’t want to jump in and participate.

The reason why 2 women are sitting over here talking about men might be obvious if you think about it. We’re trying to understand our own experiences of relating to ourselves and others where these patterns occur.

And a lot of times, it’s rough relating to men. Especially when so many of them tell you their behavior is based on something about the women!

It makes sense to try and figure out what’s really going on. Yael and I have been at this for years! The figuring it out part, that is.

What do you think about it?